Trinitarians making their proof for existence of God look ridiculous #5

Every one of us should know that it is impossible to please God without a sound personal faith. God knows the heart and as such sees clearly what you think and what you believe. You may fake those around you but you can not fool God.

The world may see in you a weak one because you refuse to go with the main churches. But in your action they should recognise more your strength, daring to be no partaker of the well-known and often more loved churches, namely going for a church which wants to live according to the biblical truth and not human doctrines of for example the trinity.

You may be a failure in man’s eyes and in your own eyes because you can never get anything right, but the Lord sees your heart, not your outward appearance. You may have tried over and over to walk in the Lord’s ways and kept failing regardless, but His grace is sufficient for you. {Rooted In Faith}

We can find lots of people who try to convince others they are wrong because they belong to the minority. Belonging to the minority may also often bring questions.

Each person, at some point or the other in their life, goes through such circumstances where they start doubting the way they are walking in, the path that is set for them. Doubts, questions, fear, failure, disappointments are part of life, but you cannot let you pull you down. Faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see. In all this, the anchor and the stronghold of your life, Jesus, will not fail you and will not let you down. He knows the path that you take, He has planned it all, and He knows the beginning from the end, and hence, you can safely trust in Him and have faith that He will see you through till the end. The Bible repeatedly talks about the small things people have done in faith that have caused them to be a trigger of a greater change. {Rooted In Faith}

When looking at the Bible we should take the words like they are written and should not think like lots of people think in their indoctrinated up-growing. Also reading the Bible we should consider it as a letter or a way of conversation from God with us. With those words written down for posterity we can see that there is a God interested in His creation. It is His way of interaction with them and throughout all the stories presented in the Bible we clan clearly see how He intervened and gave enough proof of His existence. Again those Enlgish evangelists and KJV-Onlyism people undermine such existence by wanting others to believe Jesus spoke English or would never have prayed to Allah (God), though in Jesus his mother-tongue the word for the title God is Allah. By claiming that would be a false god those Christians take away any faith in the real God, because in many languages “Allah” is the only word which has only a singular form and is used to speak about the divine Creator God. According those trinitarians all the Arabs, Kurds, Turks, Aramaic, Jemenites, Saudis all would have false bibles and have a false god because they call Him “Allah”. All those who believe Allah, the Elohim Hashem Jehovah, would be the Source of everything are denied by many trinitarian Christians and as such are a laughing stock for the non-believers in a god or God. Agnostics and atheists can see how those trinitarians take away the ground for the existence of a god by denying everything what those believers in the One Allah or One God believe.

As such many see grounds to believe

“The creation of the universe remains unexplained by any force, field, power, potency, influence or instrumentality known to physics – or to man. The whole vast imposing structure organizes itself from absolutely nothing. This is not simply difficult to grasp. It is incomprehensible.” (Berlinski, 1998, quoted in Investigating Christian Evidence, 2003, p. 18).

Though when looking closer at the letters from God, listening carefully to the words and looking at what happened in the history of man and looking around, watching what is going on, one shall be able to come to realise that existence of a Major Supreme Higher Power, Who declared Himself as the Power of Existence. but also that is something what many trinitarians undermines. Because they say it is a proof that Jesus is God because he says “I Am” and that would be the Name of God. For all the ones not believing in god this is a big joke, making all those people who answer the phone or answer to a question if they are so-and-so “A am” into God. All those trinitarians who are looking at the replies of Christ, do either not want to see the question to what he responded and do not want to see the difference of what God said He is and always shall be.

It was the divine Creator Who said He was the Almighty, though Jesus never showed to be that almighty and was not almighty at all, clearly his limits being notated in the Scriptures. It is that Almighty God or Allah, the Most High Elohim, The El Shaddai Who not only demanded from Abraham to walk before Him blameless, but requires that from all who.

Genesis 17:1 (RNKJV) Genesis 17
1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, יהוה appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am El-Shaddai; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

Exodus 3:14 (RNKJV)
14 And Elohim said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Notice, what the majority of trinitarians wish not to see, that God says

“I Am that I am” or “I am who I am”

implying He is “the one being Who is” or “I am that which I am.”  The original Hebrew text reading: ’eheyeh ’asher ’eheyeh, the word ’eheyeh being derived from hayah which means to be, to exist, but the Aramaic text here in v. 14 reads: ayah ashar ayah.

Later on that God Who declares Himself to be God gives His Name and tells to be the first and only One.

Exodus 6:3 (RNKJV)
3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of El-Shaddai, but by my name יהוה {Jehovah} was I not known to them?

Exodus 6:6 (RNKJV)
6 Wherefore say unto the children of Israel, I am יהוה, and I will bring you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians, and I will rid you out of their bondage, and I will redeem you with a stretched out arm, and with great judgments:

Exodus 20:7 (RNKJV)
7 Thou shalt not take the name of יהוה thy Elohim in vain; for יהוה will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Switching a name or replacing it with an other name does not show much respect for a person. When your name is John and we would call you Joe you may perhaps like it, but it also can be you would not be pleased with it. To call Jehovah Jesus (witch comes form Issou and means “Hail Zeus” we can image that neither the prophet and master teacher Jeshua nor God would be pleased with such name change.)  By falsifying the name of the rebbe Jeshua and saying to others that this false name Jesus is then the name of God would be bringing the Name of God to naught and against the wish of the Almighty God.

Exodus 20:7 (TS2009)
7 “You do not bringa the Name of יהוה your Elohim to naught, for יהוה does not leave the one unpunished who brings His Name to naught. Footnote: aOr lift up, or take.

In the past we can see that also certain Jews profaned God’s Name, like today many christians do.

Ezekiel 36:22 (RNKJV)
22 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Sovereign יהוה; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name’s sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

Still today there are lots of people who do not seem to believe there is no one other than Him Who is One Who can enlighten and strengthen us:

Isaiah 41:10 (RNKJV)
10 Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy Elohim: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.

Isaiah 43:10-13 (RNKJV)
10 Ye are my witnesses, saith יהוה, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no El formed, neither shall there be after me. 11 I, even I, am יהוה; and beside me there is no saviour. 12 I have declared, and have saved, and I have shewed, when there was no stranger among you: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith יהוה, that I am El. 13 Yea, before the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who shall let it?

Isaiah 44:4-9 (RNKJV)
4 And they shall spring up as among the grass, as willows by the water courses. 5 One shall say, I am יהוה’s; and another shall call himself by the name of Jacob; and another shall subscribe with his hand unto יהוה, and surname himself by the name of Israel. 6 Thus saith יהוה the King of Israel, and his redeemer יהוה of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no Elohim. 7 And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them. 8 Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there an Eloah beside me? yea, there is no rock; I know not any. 9 They that make a graven image are all of them vanity; and their delectable things shall not profit; and they are their own witnesses; they see not, nor know; that they may be ashamed.

Jeremiah 32:27 (RNKJV)
27 Behold, I am יהוה, the Elohim of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?

The ones who think there exists only one true Bible, which would be the Authorised King James Bible and use one version were the Name of God is taken away, not only mislead people, by not giving them the possibility to know if there is spoken about the Most High Lord of lords the Elohim Hashem Jehovah or just been spoken about the lord of lords Jesus whose real name was Jeshua. They also give others to believe in a cruel God Who excludes people who do not speak English. But the God of the Bible is a loving God, Who has spoken in ancient times and still speaks to people who want to hear Him. Though it is a God Who does not like so much a one-way conversation. He looks forwards to our reaction to His Words. It is not possible for man to let the Words go over there head. To continue our walk to a better life it is necessary to listen to God and to dare to speak to Him as well, for example by prayer.

Such conversation with God is also only possible when there is enough faith in Him. When we do not believe in God our hope in Him would be of not much value. Then it looks more like you are betting and love to take your chances by any means that people think could be useful.

For getting to know God, one has to believe in Him and one has to find and believe in the Source of knowledge, coming to read the Bible, the Words God has given to mankind. As we read more and grasp more of His Word we shall be able to grow in an understanding of God.

Nothing should become more important than getting into the Word and the Word into us. {Communication with our Father}

Lots of people who have grown up in one or another church of the Main Churches and think they know it all and as such do not have to read the Bible. Once they start reading it they often are confused  by what they come to read, this not being in line with what their church-fathers say.

Reading the Bible can help us sort through all the craziness to see what is true and what is really important. When we are prepared to set all the learned doctrines aside we not only shall be able to come to see the Biblical Truth but the gained knowledge shall bring about peace in our lives rather than allowing us to wallow in our confusion.

Concentrating on reading the Words of God in the Bible, instead  of concentrating on man’s teachings shall bring us

Back to Faith, Rather than Religion – We can get very caught up in our religion. We can go through all the motions that religion dictates, but it means nothing without faith. When we read our Bible, we open ourselves up to remembering our faith. {Communication with our Father}

First of all does there need to be the belief in a Divine Creator and has there to be a willingness to trust that God. All ungodliness and unrighteousness of man we see in this world, and many are doing a lot for you not getting to see the existence of God. Though we must know that since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that man is without excuse, (Romans 1:20) We also should know that those who are against the One true God, the Elohim Hashem Jehovah God, in their blindness shall have more difficulties to see the real God. There might even be a good chance that they knew God, but because they did or do not glorify Him as God, nor wanted to be thankful for what He has prepared for them too, God being put aside for their other god, The Most High having become futile in their thoughts, this is good reason for the Most High to darken their foolish hearts.

We see many who changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man and even find several believers who say they are Christian but have made themselves graven images of their gods and saints.

The Torah may not explicitly teach that we have free will, but it’s implied in The Book of Law. In Deuteronomy 30:15-18, God, though Moses, gives the Israelites a choice:

Deuteronomy 30:15-18 (RNKJV)
15 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil; 16 In that I command thee this day to love יהוה thy Elohim, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and יהוה thy Elohim shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it. 17 But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other elohim, and serve them; 18 I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it.

To love the Most High God a person has to recognise His existence first and secondly has to accept His position. When loving a person intensely one shall not turn away from that person to give also the same sort of love to an other. As such we should be careful not to be lured into the worship and service of other gods.

God’s knowledge of the future doesn’t mean that our choices aren’t free. It only means that God knows us infinitely well, is outside of time, and therefore can “predict” our actions. {Are We Free to Choose?}

The ones who say Jesus is God but than have to agree that Jesus did not know what would happen with his disciples in the future, make of their god a fool, saying ‘he’ or ‘God’ does knows everything. Those who take it that God exists and is the Creator of everything are not lunatics. That God exists can not fit any “fact”

unless you defined God as finite and perceivable, which Biblical religions do not. Even so, billions of people insist that it’s true. Lots of them have jobs, families, and college degrees. They obey the law. They’re lucid in conversation. They’re neither stupid nor insane. {Truth in All Its Varieties}

Religious faith is one way to get moral guidance and a sense of accountability, a sense that it matters whether or not they live morally. {N.S. Palmer – Truth in All Its Varieties}

For a belief to be absolutely true, it cannot be only relatively true. That is, its truth cannot depend on a particular set of circumstances or a way of describing the world. If it depends on things like that, then both its truth and its meaning are relative to those things. Under different circumstances or a different description of reality, the belief might be false or it might even be meaningless. {Absolutely Relatively True}

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Preceding

Trinitarians making their proof for existence of God look ridiculous #1

Trinitarians making their proof for existence of God look ridiculous #2

Trinitarians making their proof for existence of God look ridiculous #3

Trinitarians making their proof for existence of God look ridiculous #4

Possible arguments and proofs about the existence of God #1

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Additional reading

  1. Catholicism, Anabaptism and Crisis of Christianity
  2. Being alive and living life don’t always go hand in hand
  3. Are people allowed to have doubts
  4. Are there certain books essential to come to faith
  5. Can you question the existence of God
  6. Attributes to God
  7. God should be your hope
  8. Background of Faith
  9. Faith
  10. Faith Requires a Basis
  11. My faith
  12. A Living Faith #1 Substance of things hoped for
  13. A Living Faith #2 State of your faith
  14. A Living Faith #3 Faith put into action
  15. A Living Faith #4 Effort
  16. Living Faith #5 Perseverance
  17. A Living Faith #6 Sacrifice
  18. A Living faith #7 Prayer
  19. Living Faith #8 Change
  20. A Living Faith #9 Our Manner of Life
  21. Living Faith #10: Our manner of Life #2
  22. A Living Faith #11 My place in the body of Christ and my ecclesia
  23. A Living Faith #12 The Love for Jesus
  24. Feed Your Faith Daily
  25. El Shaddai Who appeared unto Abraham
  26. God Will Lead
  27. God, my father, my closest friend
  28. Devotees and spotters
  29. A call easy to understand
  30. Hope does not disappoint us
  31. When believing in God’s existence and His son, possessing a divine legislation
  32. Prayer Bible verses to help us to get a deeper conversation with God
  33. Praying and acts of meditation without ceasing
  34. Praying is surrendering in all circumstances
  35. As always God has a Plan
  36. To find ways of Godly understanding

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Related

  1. Doubt, disbelief, and finding faith.
  2. Atheism: Doubting Your Doubts
  3. The fear of the Lord
  4. The Fear Factor…
  5. Making a Spiritual Connection
  6. Conversation
  7. Conversation with God
  8. Pray God’s Will Be Done  
  9. When Should We Pray?
  10. A Covenant with Abraham
  11. Day 10: Chasing God’s Plan
  12. Disown God

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