Already in the time of Jesus excluding real followers of Christ

Early in the first century there were already difficulties for those who followed Jesus and believed he was the Messiah.

When people were miraculously cured by Christ Jesus and went to the synagogue they became confronted by some of the Pharisees who said,

“This man is not from God, for he does not keep the Sabbath.” (John 9:16)

Those like the blind man, who replied,

“He is a prophet.” (John 9:17)

had their parents ordered and questioned by the Pharisees (John 9:18). Those parents often said their children had to speak for themself, because they were afraid of the Jewish leaders, who already had decided that anyone who acknowledged that Jesus was the Messiah would be put out of the synagogue. That was why the blind man his parents said,

“He is of age; ask him.” (John 9:18-22)

In the first century of this common age the Scribes and Pharisees were mighty men for whom many looked up at them.

Jesus knew the responsible religious leaders for the synagogue their position, them speaking with the authority of Moses and asked his followers to obey those religious leaders.

MT23:1 Then Jesus spoke to the crowds as well as his disciples, saying: MT23:2 “The Scribes and Pharisees sat down on the seat of Moses.[1] MT23:3 So, everything they preach to you, do and observe;[2] but do not imitate their actions,[3] for they do not practice what they preach.[4] (Matthew 23:1-3)

Jesus wanted people to do whatever those selected leaders taught to those coming into the synagogue and to follow their teaching. At the same time he asked them not do as they do, for they do not practice what they teach. (Matthew 23:3) Certain leaders, the same as in our time tried to tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear,  and lay them on the shoulders of others; but they themselves are unwilling to lift a finger to move them. (Matthew 23:4)

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Pope John Paul II consecrating 12 new bishops in 1997. Them being called”father”. – Photo: Giulio Broglio/AP

We should recognize those people who do all their deeds to be seen by others and love to have the place of honour at certain events, gatherings and the best seats in the synagogues or shul, and to be greeted with respect and honour in public, like in the marketplaces, and to have people call them with their title of their denomination (rabbi, father, master, bishop). (Matthew 23:5-7) We also should remember the words of Jesus who wanted everybody to know that such tittles should not be on the tip of the tongue. Each one of us is in fact a  student. (Matthew 23:5-7)

More important is that we should be careful by calling religious leaders father, for we might have our worldly male parent (biological and/or adoptive father) but only one real Father — the one in heaven. (Matthew 23:5-7)

MT23:7 [They enjoy] greetings in the market square[12] and to be called ‘Rabbi’[13] by people. MT23:8 But, you [disciples] should not be addressed as ‘Rabbi’ for only One is your teacher.[14] All of you [disciples] are brothers.[15] MT23:9 Nor should [you disciples permit others] on earth to address you as ‘Father’[16] for One is your Father – the Heavenly One. MT23:10 Nor should you disciples be addressed as ‘Leaders’[17] because your Leader is only the Messiah. (Matthew 23:7-9 Naz.Com.)

Those who say they are the only ones to read the Word of God (the Scrolls or the Bible) and preach like they are the only ones authorized to do so, should know that even when they want to be called rabbi or instructor, we only have one instructor, the Messiah. (Matthew 23:10)

Instead of serving the Most High God and the people God brings them in front of them those church leaders and theologians are just like the ancient scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For they lock people out of the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 23:13-14) Shutting out or excluding people from the Kingdom of God and saying they will end up in hell is what those men love to do. To curse someone else to hell is some favourite pastime for several trinitarian adepts. We can find lots of preachers who point the middle finger to the non-trinitarian believers, condemning them to hell.

Jesus said woe to the scribes and Pharisees of his time and called them  hypocrites. He called them blind guides and blind fools. (Matthew 23:17) By those leaders there were people who demanded money from those who came to their services. Also, today in several, mostly mega churches, the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith are neglected (Matthew 23:23). When looking at those so called theologians, we can see that they neglect the others, strain out a gnat and are full of greed and self-indulgence (Matthew 23:23-25).

As it has been for ages we can find many hypocrites whose inside is dark and of all kinds of filth. So they also on the outside look righteous to others, but inside they are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness. (Matthew 23:27-28) True disciples of Christ Jesus try to become like him and stay humble, following his teachings and not those of other men. Real followers of Christ also follow up the task Jesus has given to his followers, to go out in the world proclaiming the Good News of the coming Kingdom of God.

Mankind has to be aware of the many preachers who say they represent Jesus or God. Many of them worship another god than Jesus worshipped. They have a Trinity as their godly being, instead of the Only One True God Who is the God of Jesus, the God of Abraham, Who is One eternal all-knowing Spirit Being no man has ever seen.

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Preceding

Who are the anti-Jehovah people

Those willing to tarnish

Oppressive language of anti-Jehovah people does more than represent violence

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Additional reading

  1. Many churches
  2. Place for a fifth and sixth house in Christendom
  3. This fighting world, Zionism and Israel #7
  4. Matthew 7:15-20 – The Nazarene’s Commentary: The True Disciple #2 False prophets and fruitage
  5. Matthew 7:13-23 – The Nazarene’s Commentary: The True Disciple #3 Matthew 7:21-23 The ones Jesus never knew
  6. Matthew 23:1-12 – The Nazarene’s Commentary: Prominence and Humility
  7. Matthew 23:13-14 – The Nazarene’s Commentary: Shutting Up the Kingdom
  8. Matthew 23:15 – The Nazarene’s Commentary: Woe 2: Evangelists of Gehenna
  9. Matthew 23:16-22 – The Nazarene’s Commentary: Woe 3: Blind Guides and Gold
  10. Matthew 23:23-24 – The Nazarene’s Commentary: Woe 4: A Disregard for Justice and Mercy
  11. Signs of the last days when difficult times will come
  12. The false prophets in the present world

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Related

  1. Matthew Chapter A Day – 23
  2. Read Matt 23 before saying anything
  3. Who were the pharisees?
  4. Strength and Authority
  5. Leadership and Titles– Part I
  6. “Do you want to stand out? Then step down. Be a servant.” ~Jesus
  7. Hypocrisy & Judgmentalism – Two Unmistakable Marks Of Narcissism – Part 1
  8. “But woe unto you, religious elites (scribes and Pharisees), hypocrites! You shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for you neither go in yourselves, neither suffer you them that are entering to go in.” ~Jesus
  9. Woe unto you…..
  10. What is the unpardonable sin? – Matthew 12:31-32
  11. The Good & Bad of the Pharisees
  12. Matthew 23:16-26 – “Woe to You, Scribes and Pharisees
  13. Matthew 23:27-30
  14. “You serpents, you generation of vipers, how can you escape the damnation of hell?” ~Jesus

27 thoughts on “Already in the time of Jesus excluding real followers of Christ

    1. Not at all is it denying Jehovah when people give Jesus the full credit for what he is and what he does. Jesus received the authority from God. When you would think that because Jesus healed blind people, that he would be God, you forget that today there are also doctors who give sight again to blind people. According to your thinking they are God because they can heal the blind. Or others who can heal the deaf should then also be God (in your way of thinking)

      You not only seem to neglect the many passages in the bible which give a clear image of who Jesus is and why he could do such a miraculous works. Do you consider that God did not tell the truth when He said that Jesus was His only begotten beloved son of God?

      You also seem to forget that we too have to be one with Jesus and one with God, like Jesus is in union with his heavenly Father. According to your way of thinking being in union with God meaning that one is God makes not only Jesus to be God but also you, us and all people who are one in Christ as Christ is one with God.

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      1. You seem to forget why the Jews wanted Jesus crucified- blasphemy- claiming to be the Son of God. The crux of the Christian faith is that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world, in the power of the Holy Spirit. Without that truth there’s no salvation

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        1. Claiming something does not mean it is so. Jesus never claimed to be God. You yourself say the reason was “claiming to be the Son of God” and that is something Jesus really did. He was not alone claiming to be the son of God. God Himself declared Jesus to be His only begotten beloved son, something you do not seem to accept or to believe, because you want others to believe Jesus is God Himself.

          Strangely you contradict yourself once more saying what we to also believe, namely “The crux of the Christian faith is that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world, in the power of the Holy Spirit. Without that truth there’s no salvation” though you think it was God Himself who came down to earth to fake His temptation, torture and death and having people wait such long time before doing that theatre act and after that so called salvation letting people still suffer so many centuries, which makes of that God a very cruel god.

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          1. If God was to treat us as we deserve we’d all be in hell now. Anything better than that is a bonus. Jesus is the only way to peace with God. If you think you’re somehow entitled to not suffer at the hands of the Holy One, then you have too high a view of yourself and too small a view of God

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            1. Once again you contradict yourself or want to fool others. The Bible tells us clearly that Jesus is the way to God and the way to life. You say “Jesus is the only way to peace with God.” but in other writing you say Jesus is himself God, so you are claiming that God is the only way to peace with God. In a certain way there is good reason to believe that, because without God there is no relationship possible with Him. God is the One Who provided the possibility to escape the curse of death. That promised person is Jeshua (Jesus) the Kristos or Christ, the Messiah who has put his own will aside to do the Will of God. It was God Who accepted the ransom offering of the Nazarene man Jesus. In case God had not accepted that sacrificial offering we still would not be saved. By believing in who Jesus is, and believing in what he has done we can find peace in our heart and look forward to the fulfilment of the other promises of God which still have to come in fulfilment. In the meantime we can count on it that Jesus is now sitting next to God (and not on God’s throne) to be a high priest for God and a mediator between God and man.

              We have not at all a high a view of ourself and too small a view of God, just the opposite, we think God is the Most Almighty All-knowing never lying God. You make of Jesus and God characters who do not tell the truth, because when Jesus is God he knows when the endtimes come and who will be seated next to him or who shall enter the kingdom of God. Jesus tells those who are eager to know that very important day of the Latter times that he does not know that because it is only given to God to know such things. But when he is God he clearly would know, and falsely also gives the impression he is not God.

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              1. Is it too hard for God also to become a man? Nothing is impossible for God. It is the very fact that He became a man that means that He can mediate for us with Father God.

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                1. Why would Allah having to become a man and how can He mediate between Himself and others? That is not the meaning of mediating. Mediating in your language means according the dictionaries the same as in Hebrew, Greek, Arabic, Aramaic and other languages, to come between two or more parties.

                  If someone mediates between two groups of people, or mediates an agreement between them, they try to settle an argument between them by talking to both groups and trying to find things that they can both agree to. A person can not act as a mediator for himself. It is always an act for or between others.
                  For example: “My mom was the one who mediated between Zelda and her mom. [V + between]”
                  “United Nations officials have mediated a series of peace meetings between the two sides. [V n + between]”
                  “The Vatican successfully mediated in a territorial dispute between Argentina and Chile in 1984. [VERB]”
                  “U.N. peacekeepers mediated a new cease-fire.” and so on.

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                    1. God the Son is capable of being both God and the mediator between God and men. Nothing is impossible for God. Even I am simultaneously a husband and a father. Don’t put God in a box!

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                    2. But when God is all-knowing His son should also be all-knowing when he is God. Though on several occasions Jesus says he does not know and that it is only given to God to know. When Jesus is God he then misleads and really is a liar.

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                    3. By humbling oneself a person does not lose his qualities but knows how to control them. By not telling what he knows he does not humble himself but does not want others to know what he knows, which is contradictory to a position of humbling.

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                2. To mediate for us He needs an other person to bring arbitration, intervention, reconciliation, and/or conciliation .

                  A negotiator, arbitrator, judge, referee acts not for himself but is the one who tries to bring other parties reconciled or in agreement.

                  Jesus as mediator makes it possible that we do have some one speaking to God in our behalf.

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                  1. Jesus: “You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life.”
                    John 5:39‭-‬40 ESV
                    https://bible.com/bible/59/jhn.5.39-40.ESV

                    Jesus pronounced woe to the religious people like you. But He offered grace to the tax collectors and sinners. You think you’re too good for Jesus. He’s not for you then. It’s not the healthy who need a doctor but the sick. Jesus didn’t call the goody two shoes, but sinners to repentance.

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                    1. We not at all think we are too good for Jesus. We are just giving ourselves in his hands, knowing that he is as a son of man, the chosen one by God, the best one to mediate between us and God, him having prepared the way so that we can go straight to Jesus his and our heavenly Father.

                      We also know our own weaknesses and defects, but are assured that by the work of Jesus we are saved and should not have to worry about doing the task he has given his followers, because we count on him, him being close to us and with us, and him being the best mediator for us (something you do not seem to believe).

                      We also believe the Bible to be the infallible Word of God to be the best tool for our instruction, whilst you might count on human teachings more than God’s Word, but that is your choice in which you are free to follow. We do not condemn you or others because we think judging belongs to the son of God, Jesus the man in who we believe and trust.

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                    2. The only way Jesus can mediate for us is being fully God and fully man. But we’re going round in circles. Don’t link to my posts in future, you don’t represent my faith or my Lord.

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            2. According to the Christian Bible Jesus was three days in hell or sheol, what means that Jesus was in the grave for three days.

              Why would God have to suffer in our place for something He gave Himself to mankind? It was God Who brought the curse of death over mankind, whilst straight ahead in Gan Eden He could have done with away of those sinful creatures.

              Your god Jesus seems a very funny lying god, but your other god you call god the father seems also a very strange bloke not telling the truth realy.
              What would you do when in a bank the son of the manager sells you useless shares and we you come to complain about it by the manager you face the same person, but now he says it was his son selling those shares, whilst the son says it was my father doing that. Both being the one and the same person, would you accept the differences in their saying?

              Though with Jesus you seem to do that, claiming your god made him smaller or took on a lesser form for being a man. Though our Scriptures, which should be the same for all Christians say God knows everything and man can not see God nor can do anything to God. Whilst you claim people killed your god. Several Muslims also claim that Jesus would not have died at the stake (naturally not at a cross, because such martyr tool was not yet in existence at that time.) and they think it is a substitute who died in name of Christ.

              But you seem to talk all the time of substitutes or an incarnated god, whilst the Most High God is against any believe in incarnation. Allah rejects such a thought. Allah is also very clear in His sayings and warnings to mankind, namely that there is Only One God Who is One. That is what people should believe.

              To my impression you seem not to believe what is written in your Scriptures, where Allah says that Jesus is His only begotten beloved son. Why do you not believe Allah when He says so? By not believing Him, are you yourself not playing higher than Allah?

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              1. Jesus: “You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life.”
                John 5:39‭-‬40 ESV
                https://bible.com/bible/59/jhn.5.39-40.ESV

                Jesus pronounced woe to the religious people like you. But He offered grace to the tax collectors and sinners. You think you’re too good for Jesus. He’s not for you then. It’s not the healthy who need a doctor but the sick. Jesus didn’t call the goody two shoes, but sinners to repentance.

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