A Book to trust #16 Biblical archaeology vs Historical science or study #1 Flat or round earth

In the previous writings we have seen that The God above all gods, Who is the divine Originator of all life is not only The primary Source, the original truth, but also

the source of all truth, the truth in all truth {Herman Bavinck}

Out of love the divine Creator wants to provide mankind with His Words so that those willing to hear and see, shall be able to have themselves moulded into a renewed being. With the knowledge that all God’s Words are true and that all His righteous laws are eternal we should know that those Words which do not tell lies are our best information book and Guide for our life. In that Book of books or Bestseller of all times we can find many testimonies which shows the ups and downs of people, their good and bad deeds, and offer us a lesson showing what to do or not to do and who or what to believe or not to believe.

In the many books we can see how certain people tried others to get away from God. Job in the book of the same name is a beautiful example how friends can be a danger for the faith in the true God and for true worship, testing a person in the most difficult times of his life. Today too there are many people trying to get us away from the real God and wanting us to question God.

Historia (meaning “inquiry, knowledge acquired by investigation”), 1892 painting by Nikolaos Gyzis

Those that say that the Hebrew Bible has little value for the science or study of history because it is made up of non-fictional prose, fictional prose, folk tales, legends and theological treatises, may have reason to think so, but we should know the bible had never the intention to be a History Book. Those who say that archaeology hold the keys to truth should consider which truth they want to see. The Bible’s claims regarding the early history of ancient Israel can be found back in archaeological proofs.

This fragmented stela was excavated at Tel Dan in northern Galilee; it possibly dates to the ninth century B.C.E. Since its discovery in 1993/1994, the highlighted Aramaic letters (bytdwd) have been read as “the House of David” and regarded as confirmation that the Biblical David was a real historical figure. Much less optimistic scholars oppose the suggested interpretation and even question the stela’s authenticity. Photo: The Israel Museum, Jerusalem/Israel Antiquities Authority (photograph by Meidad Suchowolski).

It is fair to acknowledge that Biblical archaeology had failed to deliver the evidence that the founding fathers of the discipline — William F. Albright and George E. Wright— thought it would in support of the Bible as history. We may find that the recoveries and scientific investigations made in the last centuries, of the material remains of past cultures, could really illuminate the periods and descriptions in the Bible, be they from the Old Testament (Tanakh) or from the New Testament, as well as the history and cosmogony of the Judeo-Christian religions. The study of the evolutionary behaviour of the universe and the origin of its characteristic features throughout the ages has shed some light on what we could still call “the unsolved problem of the origin” of the solar system, (planetesimal; protoplanet; solar nebula. Cosmology may have brought lots of theories on the origin of the universe, like the big-bang model and steady-state theory.

As much as Biblical archaeology fell short of the quest to “prove the Bible,” it helped to show just how misguided those initial expectations from Biblical archaeology were. As a result, many scholars have grown suspicious of the Biblical text, rejecting even the most central narratives of early Bible history, such as the Exodus, the military conquest of Canaan, the existence of the United Monarchy and, most recently, the very historicity of figures such as Saul, David or Solomon.{Who Tells the Truth—the Bible or Archaeology?}

NASA logo.svgIn the past many preferred to follow human teachings about our universe and existing.  As such theories existed of man having more than one life or having an extra part going out of the boy (the immortal soul) after death to reside somewhere else. Others were convinced that the universe was a box or a chamber with the earth as its floor. Today we still come across “Flat earth believers” who say the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) as an executive branch of the United States federal government would be cheating us. They do not want to believe that the many pictures we could come to see from space would be real. For the unbelievers it are all manipulated or photo-shopped pictures.

Ed White on Gemini 4: first US spacewalk, 1965

Not only the Babylonians thought about such flat world. Also Vedic priests of India imagined that the earth was flat and that only one side of it was inhabited. A primitive tribe in Asia pictured the earth as a huge tea tray.

For a long time the trinitarian Christians were and some still are convinced that the earth must be flat and ending by the oceans and that all animals and man came into existence like we can see them now. Creationist and several other trinitarian (but also some conservative non-trinitarian) Christians believing there was no form of evolution and that pre-historic animals  (like dinosaurs) did not exist. (Be careful, we do not say you should or that we believe in Darwinism, because we do not.)

Mural likely depicting Lactantius.

Christian apologist and one of the most reprinted of the Latin Church Fathers, Lactantius, in full Lucius Caecilius Firmianus Lactantius, who became an advisor to the first Christian Roman emperor, Constantine I, guiding his religious policy as it developed, pressing for a three-headed godhead, also ridiculed the idea of a spheric globe. His Divinae institutiones (“Divine Precepts”), a classically styled philosophical refutation of early-4th-century anti-Christian tracts, was the first systematic Latin account of the Christian attitude toward life. Lactantius was referred to as the “Christian Cicero” by Renaissance humanists.

Lactantius reasoned:

“Is there any one so senseless as to believe that there are men whose footsteps are higher than their heads? . . . that the crops and trees grow downwards? that the rains, and snow, and hail fall upwards?”

It was only in the 20th century man came to see that technically speaking, the earth is an oblate spheroid. Question should man have waited until scientific proof by the astronauts before we should have believed such thing?

Regarding the shape of the earth, The Encyclopedia Americana says:

“The earliest known image that men had of the earth was that it was a flat, rigid platform at the center of the universe. . . . The concept of a spherical earth was not widely accepted until the Renaissance.”

In the eighth century B.C.E., when the prevailing view was that the earth was flat, centuries before Greek philosophers, like the sixth century B.C.E., Greek philosopher Pythagoras and later ones, theorized that the earth likely was spherical, and thousands of years before humans saw the earth as a globe from space, the Hebrew prophet Isaiah stated with remarkable simplicity:

“There is One who is dwelling above the circle of the earth.” (Isaiah 40:22)

The Hebrew word chugh, here translated “circle,” may also be rendered “sphere.” Other Bible translations read, “the globe of the earth” (Douay Version) and “the round earth.”—Moffatt.

If people would have believed the words of the bible much sooner not so many people would have died innocently.

Boston College theology professor and ex-priest Thomas Groome even came to say that

“the Catholic Church never said the earth is round, but just stopped saying it was flat.” {Russell, Jeffrey Burton (1991), Inventing the Flat Earth: Columbus and modern historians, New York: Praeger, ISBN 0-275-95904-X}

In 1633, the Inquisition of the Roman Catholic Church forced Galileo Galilei, one of the founders of modern science, to recant his theory that the Earth moves around the Sun. Under threat of torture, Galileo – seen facing his inquisitors – recanted. But as he left the courtroom, he is said to have muttered,

‘all the same, it moves’.

It was only 359 years later, (in 1992) the Church finally agreed. At a ceremony in Rome, before the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, Pope John Paul II officially declared that Galileo was right. The formal rehabilitation was based on the findings of a committee of the Academy the Pope set up in 1979, soon after taking office. The committee decided the Inquisition had acted in good faith, but was wrong.

Perhaps the trinitarians shall still keep saying they act in good faith before they shall agree they are wrong on many elements which are clearly explained in the bible, but where they until today still prefer to follow the human doctrines based on Greco Roman philosophy



A Book to trust #1 Background book for debate

A Book to trust #2 Book of Truth

A Book to trust #3 Creation and Creator

A Book to trust #4 Cause of Being and Truth

A Book to trust #5 Words directed to create order

A Book to trust #6 True God and true words

A Book to trust #7 Heavenly Father not withholding knowledge

A Book to trust #8 Father of the universe wanting His creatures to know Him

A Book to trust #9 Consistency

A Book to trust #10 Archaeology confirming or denying claims of the Bible #1 Old Testament

A Book to trust #11 Archaeology confirming or denying claims of the Bible #2 New Testament

A Book to trust #12 Archaeology confirming or denying claims of the Bible #3 Material evidence to survive

A Book to trust #13 Books for education and adjustment

A Book to trust #14 Writings to show The God #1 The I Am that I Am

A Book to trust #15 Writings to show The God #2 Importance of Being


A Book to trust #17 Biblical archaeology vs Historical science or study #2 Relevance of Biblical record


Additional reading

  1. Being Religious and Spiritual 8 Spiritual, Mystic and not or well religious
  2. History and Archaeology sciences looked at #1 Encyclopedism and enlightenment
  3. History and Archaeology sciences looked at #2 Co-operative of excavators, archaeologists, anthropologists, historians and culture morphologistsHuman versus Biblical teachings
  4. Seeing or not seeing and willingness to find God
  5. Bible, best Book of books to get to know the truth
  6. Bible containing scientific information
  7. Ion of Book of books or the Holy Scriptures
  8. Words God speaks unto all and the Spirit that quickens
  9. Organizing the Bible and the Talmud
  10. Building up the spirit of the soul
  11. Scripture words written for our learning, given by inspiration of God for edification
  12. Testimonies to observe, inspired by God
  13. Book Review: Ann Gauger, Douglas Axe & Casey Luskin, Science & Human Origins. Seattle: Discovery Institute Press, 2012.124pp.
  14. Largest timber-framed building part of discussion about God’s actions



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  2. Cosmic Connection? The Mysterious Link Between Hawking, Einstein And Galileo
  3. The Scientific Revolution
  4. Socrates vs. Machiavelli, Redefining the Cosmos, Human Nature, and the Purpose of Politics.
  5. Thought For the Day: Science Is Not A Matter of Consensus
  6. Feast of Blaise Pascal (August 19)
  7. Isaac Newton: Enlightenment (1642–1727)
  8. >Federico Angelo Cesi, founder of the Accademia del Lincei
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  10. February 15 in history
  11. “Father of modern astronomy”
  12. I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use ~Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
  13. Books For Kids: Galileo
  14. It Was the Will of the Lord to Crush Him
  15. Galileo Galilei & the Scientific Revolution
  16. Galileo Galilei: The father of Modern Science
  17. Galileo Galilei: Humble reasoning of a single individual
  18. Living with a Open Mind in a Close Minded World – A Story of Galileo Galilei
  19. Galileo Hates Your “Campus Free Speech” Arguments
  20. The Sun’s Magnetic Show
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  22. He Said That? 1/23/18
  23. #WSF14 “Galileo Galilei Quotes”
  24. Francis Bacon: the father of Modern Science and his newness
  25. More Carefully Examined
  26. The Most Important Part of Radical Creationism
  27. Theistic Evolution Pt. 1 – Introduction
  28. The Scientific Revolution Part 2
  29. Book review: An Introduction to Greek Philosophy by David Roochnik
  30. Why Pursue Scholarship? (Hint: Not to Be Happy)
  31. On Choice
  32. On Responsibility
  33. Philo of Alexandria
  34. Good and bad polytheists (part 4): Herodotus and Empedocles
  35. On Investigation
  36. On Reality
  37. A Radical Philosopher
  38. The Early Greek Philosophers
  39. Early Christian Theology and Greek Thought
  40. Reason in Philosophical thought
  41. Plato’s Realm of Forms
  42. Lessons in entrepreneurial thinking from Greek philosophy
  43. A God Unlike His Creatures
  44. The “Praeparitio” is a gigantic feat of erudition.
  45. Infinite Wisdom
  46. The Race With Death
  47. Learning Requires Memory and Experience
  48. Should We Take The Bible Literally?
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  50. Flat Earth Truths Teaser Video
  51. 100% Proof The Sun Circles Above the Flat Earth!!!”
  52. Weather Radar-BIG Problem For The Globe: Flat earth
  53. Texas Panel Pushes for Flat-Earth Theory in Textbooks
  54. More Evidence Of Faked Moon Landings
  55. True Science: Flat Earth Part Six
  56. Massive Anomaly Stretches from Suspicious Antarctica Location to UK(VIDEO)
  57. Coastlines Don’t Lie
  58. What’s Up With The Sun?
  59. The Flat-Earthers — Part 2: Irving, the Church & Columbus
  60. Flat Earthers now have a chance to make their case: Tickets to space going on sale in 2019
  61. Eric Dubay – Evolution Is A Masonic Lie Hiding Intelligent Design
  62. Irreducible Complexity
  63. Reasons to believe biology
  64. Discoveroids: The Designer Makes Compromises
  65. Hambo and His Neanderthal RelativesI
  66. CR Is Getting a Tyrannosaurus Rex
  67. Creationist Wisdom #878: Inspired Truth
  68. Creationist Wisdom #880: Evolution Is Impossible
  69. Creationist Wisdom #881: Creation Is Documented
  70. Klinghoffer: Evolution Is Taught Wrong
  71. Turkish Creationist Adnan Oktar Arrested
  72. Fact checking
  73. Gradual Processes
  74. Rev. David Rives — There Must Be a Creator
  75. Confessions of a Recovering Christian — A Memoir
  76. The Symbolism To The Reality
  77. Can we trust radiocarbon dating?
  78. More Scientific Evidence Shooting A Hole In The Theory Of Evolution.
  79. Pixels and Papyrus on the Identity of Behemoth
  80. Why Some Christians Are Embracing Evolution — and Adventists Cannot
  81. Answers News for July 2, 2018
  82. Red Hen Creationism
  83. My First Creationist
  84. The Firmament: How I Stopped Being a Creationist
  85. Carl Sagan & Ann Druyan – Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors (1992)
  86. The Case Against Evolution – turning Chick on its head!!
  87. Creationism and Coyne-dissing at The Daily Caller
  88. Five Reasons Why You Can Believe God Exists | The John Ankerberg Show
  89. The Joys of Discoveries In A Young Solar System
  90. Co-opting Crazy: Dinotopia and Disabusing Creationists of their Dino Delusions
  91. Mythologically Inspired
  92. Two-Faced
  93. Humans From a Common Primate Ancestor
  94. Christian Cakes and Creationism
  95. Fundamentalist U & Me: Eugene F. Douglass
  96. Dr. Frank Turek: Why Atheism Fails
  97. The utility of debunking crazy stuff
  98. Some Thoughts On The Philosophy Of Religion And Civil Society
  99. I Love You but You Didn’t Do the Reading
  100. Lecture: Understanding religious networks in the archived web
  101. Evolution largely omitted and diluted from Arizona’s new education standards
  102. Conspiracy Theories and Creationism
  103. The Right Recipe for Science Missionaries
  104. The Virginia GOP wants to get this creationist elected to Congress
  105. Proving God Exists Using The Human Body.
  106. A geologist shows Noah’s Ark is impossible
  107. My Journey pt 6: Choosing Blindness… Really? pt 2
  108. For the love of God, let’s protect the earth
  109. Falling for the most common misconception about evolution, a Catholic asserts that a doctor can’t be an atheist
  110. The Stones Speak: Archaeologists Discover Lost City Which Provides Further Evidence of King David (Pictures, Videos)
  111. ‘It’s only a theory’
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  113. British creationism in the web archive
  114. Dissolving the Fermi Paradox? Guess Again

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